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IN RELATION TO THE CONTROL OF THE REMEDY VARRO ... NO HANDLING, NO REMEDY
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article with some words uttered by a beekeeper SAGPYA Forum in 2004.
..... Well here we are, end of season and continued quilombo .... but now we have to shuffle and deal again, you have to heal, the source of all our ills by SENASA y. ..? . THAT HORN cure ????, nobody says anything, businesses selling Asuntol powder mixed with sugar AND BUILT UP WITH OXI !!!!, crazy thing!, And evil tongues say there is a company that manufactures beekeeping clothing that is packed "ready to use." For Mr. García Girou beyond recommending the use of Asuntol also a talk on health, and here some beekeepers are beginning to lose hives after cure because no one tells you which dose to use, "it is easy to spray the entire regadito until squirt" SE-NO-CAN-BELIEVE we are doing the same boludez last year, we masochists. And with that cure?, Someone went to put it, NO, then of course, displayed the "magical products" again that what is officially say it is not certain that kill the varroa oxalic?, Not at this time There are a lot of capped brood and often go to the apiary, Thymol?, not because it is expensive and cumbersome to prepare, Amitraz?, not because there is already cross-resistance, Asuntol?, not because it is prohibited, and that we still ?, Raid?. Come on guys SENASA, please call the batteries and out the country to tell the beekeeper is what to do, or not even go, publish something online that is free or maybe now we will wait until we die over the hives varroa?
If you find an article of the year 2007 onwards, the words would be read would be more or less the same, with the "newness" of the term varroa resistance. After many discussions with colleagues I have the certainty that the drug producers seek a cure for varroa without stopping to think they can do to control this guy as little more than resort to magical formulas, while seen as lost many hives all years. Therefore, the objective of this paper is that our colleagues understand that they if they can take part in this, that the way to do it is not inventing and testing "remedies" or magic solutions but helping to products that are available (you will pass many years to pull one back) are more effective. The author's intention is that producers understand that today (and tomorrow too obviously) that is required is not a cure for varroa treatment but the same ... and where is the difference?. In the management of the hive, the treatment is a cure by management.
The difference is that the cure is a stage of treatment, but that is not the only tool that the beekeeper has in its case. I will not enter into the discussion of which drug is better or worse, I believe and I've tried that in one of the treatments proposed (not invented by me, is the proposal of PROAPI, for several years, I consider not only was transmitted properly) the two active ingredients are being used more and Coumaphos Amitraz work well. From flumetrina mention because I do not use, but I guess I should be just as effective
Treatment is based on two main aspects. The first is that the prospects of all remedies for use in beekeeping clearly indicate that its effectiveness is reduced if there are in the hive brood X, that X varies between 4 and 6 as the product under consideration. The second aspect is that any beekeeper knows that there is no product that attacks the varroa when it is inside a capped brood cell. It
immediately think how to make a good treatment is to have the greatest possible number of varroa outside the cells and apply while an active ingredient which is stable for 2 breeding periods. Then deepened on both issues. To not be boring and that is understood better what I do as a dialogue between two people who really assure you there has been virtually the same terms with several colleagues.
As producer I do to make that the mites are outside the brood cells?. The simplest answer is to have no breeding.
Yeah right ... I'm sure the queen cages one by one ... or they put a cork? .. No. There is another simple way to cut to the calf that is leaving the queen with no place to put ... Ah pictures you take out? .. NO .. You make it fill the entire space of the nest with food in an artificial or natural, and thus having no place to put the Queen cut the position.
Ah, I have not but if I run short breeding bees ... Look this is not so, if you manage to the end of the harvest to reduce the breeding do not I say zero but 1 or 2 frames with the latest patches and care for bees litter born after the harvest going to make a lot of things the way you explain.
"The mites are exposed to the drug increasing the effectiveness of the
- The consumption of honey and pollen is minimized
- If there is some input of honey or bee pollen takes it as body reserves and not feeding calves burning .
This bee season end in itself is stronger than a bee farmer, and that the hive knows that the bee has to spend the winter (again this is not true for me, is in the books and many people study it all the time), if on top you can make that bee as extra feed and also not working (working = feed calves), I guarantee you will get more tummy July with you. Ajajaja
that exaggerated. But then I say that I have to fill everything from food, know how I get ??.... Look assure you that these kilos of food for the hive you're spending today distributed throughout the year.
And of course, because I'm going once a month and shot a van pulling litrito so ... allow me to laugh, I now .. Ajajaja. Know what happens in that way you are accomplishing the opposite effect we are looking for, because every time you add food obviously is an incentive to the bee, so the idea is to do no more than a few times 2 and large meals at 3.4 or 5 liters. If you're going in March to the hive and you put one liter Queen begins to set and you have more babies, less control of varroa, but consumption of honey and pollen and bee more wear. Imagine if you do this in the month of June our control that cause ...
And the truth now that I think a little is just like that .... And that If you do not mention that winter is more bloody fluid to be getting food to the hive by the issue of moisture, not to mention the echo in that way you spend going to the field and you will the cost of production clouds and a lot more issues.
what you're talking to is about the cost of production with varroa ???.... all has to do with anything, but read the two previous articles that are in the blog and you'll see, (the articles are How do I know about my hives and need replacement of queens? .. From the perspective of a beekeeper does not sell queens).
So now that you know next year you'll remember to do a treatment for varroa and not a cure. Acordate that the treatment begins with a review of the camera with varroa sampling and the incorporation of food to minimize possible breeding. Only then are in a position to apply the active ingredient and dose compliance periods of stay and do not forget samples at the end of treatment.
complicated che But if I see that the pleats flip a lot, see the last time in an hour fell like 50 you know how it goes !!... Not so the matter. The idea is to see how many varroa fall with a certain product, but see how many are at the end of treatment. Imagine that you saw this beehive 50 mites on the floor, at the end of treatment may be living 10, 100 or 1000 and perhaps for you the treatment was successful, because they had "many" varroa on the floor without knowing how many were living . That count in floor Leave it to those who study, laboratories and others, you do not care how many fall but few mites are alive who are ultimately the ones you eat the bee.
Well, hey this is very nice but I've said the most important thing that cured? ... regard to the active to use it seems that in these years (from nitro to here) is the most controversial and the eternal debate between legal and illegal and that the lenses of the producers in addition to legal ones they are "expensive "laboratories seeking their business which is obviously not eradicate varroa. At the same time from the perspective of phony remedies laboratories that do leave residues in honey producers, makes the varroa resistance and not allow legal remedies are less expensive, depending on selling a blend that allows the costs of research. It may be that everyone has a point though as this discussion is growing need to combat varroa now. Well
why I'm here and that heal ?.... Cura to what you want, while you make sure you're going to keep the dose for two breeding periods.
Yes, that is easier if the pleats will last throughout the winter until the bee throw-runner, even some still have a smell to remedy .. laugh back If you get angry? .. Ajajaja (Before the end I leave another laugh for you I promise you) .. Look this is not so, each product according to its characteristics and its support (About what the remedy is made) has a length of stay in the hive so that the dose is maintained at a certain level that causes damage. (This supposedly studying laboratories and is within the legal product cost) If you do not withdraw time table released doses are lower and may no longer be harmful to the mites (Acordate that all things can be bad or good depending on the dose, a cup of cold water when you are in the field with heat is very good, but if you throw in the tank of the mill and sure you can not swim you drown). This same thing happens if the dose is low these vaccines free of varroa against this principle that is very important to draw the strip on time.
Che and you think the bag with polenta and Asuntol? .. While you ensures that you are covering two periods of breeding and can also ensure that the dose of medication that is released is harmful to the mites stir. But take into account that the demands of buyers with the waste and the traceability of honey is increasing. The honey is not worth $ 1 as has been historically, today listed more than 2 and may be going way to $ 3. So now buyers are increasingly demanding more things in relation to product quality. Lest they stay stuck by residues in honey.
che Well now I'm convinced I have to go do it in the hives but I think half complex .... Not at all, let me show you how to do?
Yes of course ... Well come on these blogs there are photos and videos that show you how to prepare the hives for the winter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Ek1UEnZeo
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http://cid-533ef6a9e29db757.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/abril
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clarifies a little thing, but what about those awful bags?, also now have to wait until winter to see if it is this that you say .. Ah of the bags so we talked the other day. As for whether or not the result gives you let me show you? Since
insist ... Well come on this link and watch this video as winter in the month of July hives treated with this technique
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiu51kmbK50
Che
the truth that is good that I saw., but I had promised more laughter before the end ... Oh yes I was forgetting you owe me a drum of honey for this advice.
Dress Ajajajaj ... I turned, nahhh is a joke of the debt but the invitation to the barbecue if you accept it happened and told me how I was .. We were so? ..
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